Well said, Johnny. Cheers to you.
In a message dated 8/8/2014 9:51:00 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
As a GRG discussion list
member – as well as co-admin and list co-creator (assisting Dr. Coles in the
original “Majordomo” list installation back in 2003) I will chime in on the
1. Re. Steve’s “Would
Nature ever think to make such a small molecule that looked like this? 🙂
Note the emoticon “:-)” at
the end. Clearly the intent of the phrase is light-hearted, and taking
an intentional liberty.
Of course natural selection
is mechanical, and dispassionate. We know that.
In an informal professional
discussion such as our GRG list, I personally feel use of such phrase IS
appropriate — and sometimes even brings color and life to the
discussion. This can be like a fresh breeze compared to the dry
scientific writing we spend much of our lives in.
2. Re. the criticism of Dr.
Coles’ statement, the anthropomorphic statement below “ . . . this molecule
has actually been designed and made by nature.”.
I do not believe nature
designs. This implies intent, and is actually similar to “Would Nature
ever think . . .”.
3. On the GRG discussion
list, correction or criticism should be presented in a courteous tone.
This is not just my
personal opinion. In December of 2012 we did a survey of GRG email
discussion list members, asking for guidelines. This was high on the
list of requests by members.
Many criticisms should be
taken up with the person directly, not on a public forum sent to all 533
We all make mistakes, so if
a member learns they have actually made a statement in error, they will likely
And if a member should in a
moment of haste write something that is rude or mean-spirited, they should
4. I personally feel it
inappropriate to scold even a novice in such a manner, let alone a world class
emeritus member of our community who has been a researcher, teacher, mentor
and friend, and selflessly gives so much of his time making great
contributions to our shared mission.
M. “Johnny” Adams
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On 14-08-07 04:19 PM, L. Stephen Coles M.D. Ph.D.
Would Nature ever think to make such a
small molecule that looked like this? 🙂 — Steve Coles
Steve, Nature doesn’t
think!! Please refrain from such anthropomorphic language which makes
you look extremely unprofessional and even unscientific (if not actually
brainless – but I know you’re not).Finally, since humans are part of
nature, this molecule has actually been designed and made by nature. The whole
idea of humans being apart from nature is a highly mischievous fundamentally
invalid notion.Please stop promoting these damaging ideas and