I respect every disagreement.
Darwinian evolution is a part rather a phase of the universal
evolution, deals with the lifeform on the earth.
Human being, due to its brain, is the most advanced and recent
lifeform in the Darwinian/univresal evolution.
I am sure everybody would agree that evolution is infinite.
Then what would be the next in the evolution?
Evolution occur in a pyramidal design.
Upto the evolution of human brain, nature had been controlling the
evolution through natural selection, now human brain begins to get the
control over the nature. Consciouseness of human brain is going to
determine the direction of evolution.
Brain enhancement does not mean only structural or physical change, or
its capacity to having intuition and highest wisdom but its capacity
to preserve the intuition and wisdom forever.
It might be possible, after achieving immortality, brain develop new
In Darwinian evolution, “immortality” of the human brain, (a kind of
brain enhancement), is only way to proceed.
Achievement of unbounded lifespan by human means total control over
mechanism of aging and death. Does not sounds ‘immortality’?
On 9/18/14, Paul Wakfer wrote:
> On 14-09-17 08:02 AM, hasan sadiq wrote:
>> Evolution of human brain (its cognition, consciousness and
>> intellectual faculties) is not the termination of Darwinian evolution,
>> it is the next level evolution, entirely different from previous
>> level. It is just like from quantum physics, particle wave duality,
>> quantum entaglement, uncertainty principle, diferent perception of
>> reality, which seem to be fairy tales but exist, to our macro
>> Newtonian world.
>> Human brain with all its faculties has replaced the natural selection,
>> now holding the steering wheel of evolution. It is an unique phenomena
>> in the evolution (after formation of DNA), which will determine the
>> next phase of evolution, as we are witnessing today.
> I totally agree with all of the above and even note that such a new
> level of evolution has already been taking place for centuries,
> accelerating more as time goes on. The only place we differ is that I
> would maintain that this knowledge accumulation and capability to modify
> one’s environment is evolution not Darwinian genotypic evolution as has
> occurred in the past of all liveforms on Earth. (I also would not agree
> that there has yet been any brain enhancement beyond what good health
> measures promotes. If a human baby from 50K years ago could be
> transported to and raised in a modern household, I maintain that s/he
> would be little different brain-wise from current humans.)
>> In the universal evolution, let’s say from big bang to apperance of
>> life (DNA), changes were very slow (13 billion years), but after
>> appearance of life changes (mutations) become fast at the expanse of
>> short limited life span overall.
>> It is logical that in the next level Darwinian evolution human brain
>> will find immortality.
> I agree, except that I hate to see the word immortality used for this,
> since it “immortal” essentially means incapable of dying. No lifeform of
> any kind can be incapable of dying. All that one can hope for is to have
> in lifespan with no a priori limit to its length, ie unbounded lifespan.
> To achieve this a person will need to be constantly allocating a large
> percentage of his/hir time to the scientifically based actions of
> staying alive (which is what I have been doing for a couple of decades
> or more now).
>> After achieving the immortality human intellectuality and wisdom will
>> reach the stage of social hormony where unified global society is only
> Again I agree, but you still need to supply the mechanism for this
> harmony. However, you are very correct that it cannot be perfectly
> achieved without the existence of unbounded lifespans (as I make clear
> in my essay at: http://selfsip.org previously referenced.
> Thanks for you thoughts,
> –Paul Wakfer
>> On 9/16/14, Paul Wakfer wrote:
>>> On 14-09-16 12:25 PM, hasan sadiq wrote:
>>>> Evolution is universal, inevitable and infinite. There is no end to
>>>> evolution, in the next phase of the darwinian evolution I see clearly
>>>> the immortal human being,
>>> This may well happen (I certainly hope so and am working towards it),
>>> but the question is whether or not it will occur by means of the
>>> mechanisms of Darwinian evolution. That is, by the survival and
>>> perpetuation of specific genotypes which are more “fit” to so survive
>>> and procreate than other genotypes which are not, and therefore become
>>> extinct. This is the big question, for which I personally agree with
>>> most others here that the answer is negative. Traditional Darwinian
>>> evolution is very close to