[GRG] OFFTOPIC: Re: Is the Secret to Longevity Available from this Website? | MIT Technology Review

Since Johnny allowed this clearly off-topic response, I will respond
it.
On 15-02-10 06:17 PM, Anthony Loera
wrote:

There is no cost to “not mention” a brand on a label.

I was not referring to any set or direct cost, but rather to the
reasonable (and I think almost certain) contract arrangement terms
of any ChromaDex sale of its trademarked (and they also say
patented) ingredients.

It’s a business decision as to whether or not use the
brand as a selling point or not use it because you want to build
your own brand.

Yes it is a business decision whether or not to enter into a
contract that requires attribution of the source and trademark on
the product label or to find your own sources that do not require
any such thing. I am sure that Guarente is fully capable of
synthesizing these chemicals or knows people who can.
But please do not respond because from where the ingredients in the
Elysium Health product come is not at all germane to the purpose of
this list.
–Paul Wakfer
http://Live120Plus.com
The eventual home for *all* currently accessible, practically usable, scientifically evidential methods for increasing healthy longevity.

A

On Feb 10, 2015 7:30 PM, “Paul Wakfer”

wrote:

On 15-02-10 03:36 PM, Anthony Loera wrote:

“As for taking
NAD directly, this had been tried many ways for
decades and it appears that it does not survived
digestion” -Paul Wakfer

You do know we
have enteric capsules, right?

Of course! But by “digestion”  above I meant the entire
process of getting from the mouth through the stomach,
intestines, liver, blood and into the mitochondria of the
cells where it is needed. Sorry to not take the time to more
fully explain.

We use them on
many of our products now.

Enteric coating only gets something past the potential
destructive process of the saliva and the stomach (as I
understand it). I already take several things with enteric
coating, which is particularly beneficial for getting
pro-digestion bacteria into the duodenum and beyond, still
intact.

So it wouldn’t
be such a streach to use them for NAD.

Yes, and I confess that I have not seen enterically coated
NAD available.
(More below)

Having said
that, I have been looking for NR and only the
Branded Niagen is used by manufacturers. It is
highly doubtful they are reinventing the wheel and
getting it from someone else… specially because
they are also using pterostilbene at 50mg, which is
also another ingredient chromadex pushes. Getting
these ingredients and anything above 25% purity is
incredibly difficult unless you go to Chromadex. 

I know, I have
traveled to Vegas a couple times and to the main
ingredient suppliers for this area, and … its very
difficult.

See image below
of what is in the dietary supplement: 

Thanks muchly for providing this additional info. The LEF
products contain 100 mg of NR in one capsule and 50 mg of
pterostilbene in another, both clearly marked as coming from
“ChromaDex, Inc”. Since the above label says nothing about
ChromaDex or NIAGEN or pTeroPure (the Chromadex trademarked
name for pterostilbene), I am now more certain than before
that Elysium Health is not using the ChromaDex products.
Otherwise they would have need to pay ChromaDex a great deal
of money for not mentioning them on the label.
OTOH, look at all the additional fillers (some garbage) in
the Elysium Health product needing two softgels to get only
300 mg of total chemicals. I would not take this pill even
if I were paid to do so!! I already get too many junk
fillers in LEF supplements and have consequently too little
control of my total intake in order to get the important
ingredients within the tablets, capsules and softgels.
–Paul Wakfer
http://Live120Plus.com
The eventual home for *all* currently accessible, practically usable, scientifically evidential methods for increasing healthy longevity.

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My full-time commitment is to slow and ultimately reverse age related functional decline to increase healthy years of life. I’ve been active in this area since the 1970s, steadily building skills and accomplishments. I have a good basic understanding of the science of aging, and have many skills that complement those of scientists so they can focus on science to advance our shared mission. Broad experience Top skills: administration, management, information technology (data and programming), communications, writing, marketing, market research and analysis, public speaking, forging ethical win-win outcomes among stakeholders (i.e. high level "selling"). Knowledge in grant writing, fundraising, finance. Like most skilled professionals, I’m best described as a guy who defines an end point, then figures out how to get there. I enjoy the conception, design, execution and successful completion of a grand plan. Executive Director Gerontology Research Group (GRG). Manages Email discussion forum, web site, meetings and oversees supercentenarian (oldest humans, 110+ years) research. CEO / Executive Director Carl I. Bourhenne Medical Research Foundation (Aging Intervention Foundation), an IRS approved 501(c)(3) nonprofit. http://www.AgingIntervention.org Early contributor to Supercentenarian Research Foundation. Co-Founder Geroscience Healthspan Forum. Active contributor to numerous initiatives to increase healthy years of life. Co-authored book on conventional, practical methods available today to slow the processes of aging – nutrition, exercise, behavior modification and motivation, stress reduction, proper supplementation, damage caused by improper programs, risk reduction and others. Fundamental understanding of, and experience in the genomics of longevity (internship analyzing and curating longevity gene papers). Biological and technical includes information technology, software development and computer programming, bioinformatics and protein informatics, online education, training programs, regulatory, clinical trials software, medical devices (CAT scanners and related), hospital electrical equipment testing program. Interpersonal skills – good communication, honest, well liked, works well in teams or alone. Real world experience collaborating in interdisciplinary teams in fast paced organizations. Uses technology to advance our shared mission. Education: MBA 1985 University of Southern California -- Deans List, Albert Quon Community Service Award (for volunteering with the American Longevity Association and helping an elderly lady every other week), George S. May Scholarship, CA State Fellowship. BA psychology, psychobiology emphasis 1983 California State University Fullerton Physiological courses as well as core courses (developmental, abnormal etc). UCLA Psychobiology 1978, one brief but fast moving and fulfilling quarter. Main interest was the electrochemical basis of consciousness. Also seminars at the NeuroPsychiatric Institute. Other: Ongoing conferences, meetings and continuing education. Aging, computer software and information technology. Some molecular biology, biotech, bio and protein informatics, computer aided drug design, clinical medical devices, electronics, HIPAA, fundraising through the Assoc. of Fundraising Professionals. Previous careers include: Marketing Increasing skill set and successes in virtually all phases, with valuable experience in locating people and companies with the greatest need and interest in a product or service, and sitting across the table with decision makers and working out agreements favorable to all. Information Technology: Management, data analysis and programming in commercial and clinical trials systems, and bioinformatics and protein informatics. As IT Director at Newport Beach, CA based technology organization Success Family of Continuing Education Companies, provided online software solutions for insurance and financial professionals in small to Fortune 500 size companies. We were successful with lean team organization (the slower moving competition was unable to create similar software systems). Medical devices: At Omnimedical in Paramount CA developed and managed quality assurance dept. and training depts. for engineers, physicians and technicians. Designed hospital equipment testing program for hospital services division. In my early 20’s I was a musician, and studied psychology and music. Interned with the intention of becoming a music therapist. These experiences helped develop valuable skills used today to advance our shared mission of creating aging solutions.
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